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Randy Hase
2012-06-28 18:48:53 UTC
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For the congress to censure the attorney general is the definition of
"Witch Hunt".The "Fast and Furrious"program started with the Bush
administration,yet Darel Esia(sorry may not the correct spelling)won't
supena anyone involved with Bush.so it's purely political to discredit
the obama administation.Esia's crazy theory about Obama using this gun
running to make the gun laws harsher for US citizens is completely
insane.The recent article in fortune magazine found no evidence that the
ATF had anything to do with gun running.
Bottom line, it's all about getting Obama out of the WhiteHouse
A B
2012-07-01 16:40:12 UTC
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Post by Randy Hase
For the congress to censure the attorney general is the definition of
"Witch Hunt".The "Fast and Furrious"program started with the Bush
administration,yet Darel Esia(sorry may not the correct spelling)won't
supena anyone involved with Bush.so it's purely political to discredit
the obama administation.Esia's crazy theory about Obama using this gun
running to make the gun laws harsher for US citizens is completely
insane.The recent article in fortune magazine found no evidence that the
ATF had anything to do with gun running.
Bottom line, it's all about getting Obama out of the WhiteHouse
Sorry, I never heard about any of this, I'm in England. Do you know what
it's about, Marilyn?
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katsung47
2012-07-10 04:58:12 UTC
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Post by Randy Hase
For the congress to censure the attorney general is the definition of
"Witch Hunt".The "Fast and Furrious"program
started with the Bush
Post by Randy Hase
administration,yet Darel Esia(sorry may not the correct
spelling)won't
Post by Randy Hase
supena anyone involved with Bush.so it's purely political to
discredit
Post by Randy Hase
the obama administation.Esia's crazy theory about Obama using this gun
running to make the gun laws harsher for US citizens is completely
insane.The recent article in fortune magazine found no evidence that the
ATF had anything to do with gun running.
Bottom line, it's all about getting Obama out of the
WhiteHouse

Quote, "The differences between "Wide Receiver"
and "Fast and Furious" (with sources cited)

*Wide Receiver - small number of guns involved: between 200 and 300
total
Fast and Furious - large number of guns involved: over 2,000 guns
total

*Wide Receiver - used RFID systems to track the guns
Fast and Furious - there is no record of RFID being used to trace
these guns

*Wide Receiver - used "controlled delivery," tracking the guns all
the way into the hands of the buyers, then apprehending the
purchasers.
Fast and Furious - did not use "controlled delivery" Instead, agents
agents were ordered to not to track the weapons.

*Wide Receiver - program ended in 2007 when the RFID systems in 30-40
guns malfunctioned and agents were no longer able to trace the
weapons
Fast and Furious - Program began in 2009 and allowed all 2020 guns to
disappear without tracking them in the first place.

*Wide Receiver - only 12 guns were not recovered
Fast and Furious - over 1,400 guns from the program have not been
recovered

*Wide Receiver - program took place with the full knowledge and
consent of the Mexican government

Fast and Furious - Mexican government was kept completely in the dark
about the program

*Wide Receiver - program resulted in over 1,400 arrests made of gun
smugglers
Fast and Furious - only 20 suspects were indicted as a result of Fast
and Furious

*Wide Receiver - Zero casualties resulted from this program

Fast and Furious - At least 200 Mexican civilians, possibly as many as
300, including Mexican Attorney Mario Radriguez, were murdered with
guns from this program at over 170 different crime scenes. 2 US
Federal Agents died as a result of this program. U.S. Marine and
Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Jaime Zapata were both
murdered; guns from the Fast and Furious programs were found at their
murder scenes.

The differences between these two programs are stark and alarming.
The truth is that under Attorney General Eric Holder, the Justice
Department began a program that was far more dangerous than the one
that ended during Previous AdministrationTM.

http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/25735100377/the-differences-between-wide-receiver-and-fast-and
A B
2012-07-13 11:36:45 UTC
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Post by Randy Hase
For the congress to censure the attorney general is the definition
of
Post by Randy Hase
"Witch Hunt".The "Fast and Furrious"program
started with the Bush
Post by Randy Hase
administration,yet Darel Esia(sorry may not the correct
spelling)won't
Post by Randy Hase
supena anyone involved with Bush.so it's purely political to
discredit
Post by Randy Hase
the obama administation.Esia's crazy theory about Obama using this
gun
Post by Randy Hase
running to make the gun laws harsher for US citizens is completely
insane.The recent article in fortune magazine found no evidence
that the
Post by Randy Hase
ATF had anything to do with gun running.
Bottom line, it's all about getting Obama out of the
WhiteHouse
Quote, "The differences between "Wide Receiver"
and "Fast and Furious" (with sources cited)
*Wide Receiver - small number of guns involved: between 200 and 300
total
Fast and Furious - large number of guns involved: over 2,000 guns
total
*Wide Receiver - used RFID systems to track the guns
Fast and Furious - there is no record of RFID being used to trace
these guns
*Wide Receiver - used "controlled delivery," tracking the guns all
the way into the hands of the buyers, then apprehending the
purchasers.
Fast and Furious - did not use "controlled delivery" Instead, agents
agents were ordered to not to track the weapons.
*Wide Receiver - program ended in 2007 when the RFID systems in 30-40
guns malfunctioned and agents were no longer able to trace the
weapons
Fast and Furious - Program began in 2009 and allowed all 2020 guns to
disappear without tracking them in the first place.
*Wide Receiver - only 12 guns were not recovered
Fast and Furious - over 1,400 guns from the program have not been
recovered
*Wide Receiver - program took place with the full knowledge and
consent of the Mexican government
Fast and Furious - Mexican government was kept completely in the dark
about the program
*Wide Receiver - program resulted in over 1,400 arrests made of gun
smugglers
Fast and Furious - only 20 suspects were indicted as a result of Fast
and Furious
*Wide Receiver - Zero casualties resulted from this program
Fast and Furious - At least 200 Mexican civilians, possibly as many as
300, including Mexican Attorney Mario Radriguez, were murdered with
guns from this program at over 170 different crime scenes. 2 US
Federal Agents died as a result of this program. U.S. Marine and
Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Jaime Zapata were both
murdered; guns from the Fast and Furious programs were found at their
murder scenes.
The differences between these two programs are stark and alarming.
The truth is that under Attorney General Eric Holder, the Justice
Department began a program that was far more dangerous than the one
that ended during Previous AdministrationTM.
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/25735100377/the-differences-between-wide-receiver-and-fast-and
Managed to find out what this thread is about now. If this ploy was really
as described in the blog (and even in the Wikipedia article), what on Earth
did they think they were playing at? I can't see how they expected to keep
track of the guns anyway, if they weren't using radio tags. I have to say,
what I hear (in the UK) of US undercover operations, either police or
military (and the distinction doesn't seem too great) very often gives the
impression that their remit is just to play around. Shades of Keystone
Cops.
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A. B.
Post by Randy Hase
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